Hi all,

I am writing again because I have doubts about my withdrawal effexor and looking for a little help and comfort from members who know the subject.

I summarize: 225 mg effexor from mid-March to early June and then - 33% once (prescription of a psychiatrist at the output of the HP: super, you're supposed to highlight "leveled"!) In early June (I do not feel any symptoms aside from a bowel better!) + 20 mg in lyxansia day + 2 mg and 50 g noctamide théralène to try to sleep (very badly indeed!).

Then before the discovery of your forum and the forum of aid benzodiazepine withdrawal, I yo-yo: - 25% of effexor, + decrease very fast and quite anarchic lyxansia (three to four weeks I delete all gradually Embarassed): result, it will not at all, I feel very bad ... super rough, crises tear, no longer hold up ...

Then:
And I think I read your forum and that for benzodiazepines (whew!) ...

With your advice, I lyxansia stabilizes the starting doses (20 mg). I had already reduced the théralène zero during June and attacked a decrease noctamide (on the advice of a generalist in that I went to hit the meantime because I'm clueless!) By filing away little by little ...

Since then: I do not sleep well because even with noctamide (I "sleep" but I do not really recovers and the morning I get up in the cabbage without energy): I pissed 1/8 every 15 days. Finally, I sleep less well 2 or 3 nights after the decrease, but after this is better! So, there I came to 1mg noctamide last Monday (I "pissed" since early July).

I also knocked on the doors of four different general before finding one (also homeopathic) that understands the need for withdrawal (he understood that the drugs made me sicker at the outset: that last one recognized)

So using granules Arsenicum, it made me reduce effexor -25% from 19 August to Monday 3/09: I was a little afraid of this rapid decline, but as I have already supported the 33%, I try the shot: I did not feel any side effects.
I remained stable for lyxansia and did the last time a little trimming to achieve noctamide 1mg last Monday (I think that trimming should be approximately 10% of current noctamide).

I think at this level of play, you will perhaps (probably) think it is not really reasonable to reduce two molecules at a time (and noctamide effexor) but I do not rely all with my 2 mg noctamide and I get better by lowering the dose gradually ... (this is to try to justify myself a little ...) So, I continue to crop ...

Well, until Monday everything was better: better sleep, better digestion, a little tired during the day but at least in the block in the morning ...

Except that yesterday, I sleep less well (no difficulty falling asleep but early mornings ... with frequent difficulty returning to sleep) my transit speeds (well, sorry to clarify that), I feel a little smeared ... and more tired (logical since I sleep less)

So I wonder if this is related to withdrawal symptoms of effexor. Maybe 25% over 15 days (without symptoms) and 10% of effexor again last Monday can cause this kind of reaction? What do you think?

Personally, I do not think this is due to the decrease noctamide. I do not know what you think? Is that it can cause digestive problems? (For sleep problems, it would make sense)
(I said that I can not substitute lyxansia drops because I have not yet)

So: my questions' "many" ... courage!)

Is it necessary that I make a longer break for my noctamide decrease or remain squarely at 1 mg throughout my withdrawal from effexor? (Again, I'm bored with noctamide because sleep is very artificial: it is a real crap when one becomes very addictive ... I think you know ... and I would like my small brain relearn to sleep alone gradually)

Is that I have hope that my symptoms subside in the coming days? (Today, it is no worse than yesterday, it is the same ... it gives me a little hope)

Is that if they disappear (I hope), I would then continue reductions of 10% of effexor or less of 15 days or more, or do I stay at 10% clenching my teeth for a few days (at the moment it is bearable)
(I am currently about 101 mg of effexor, starting from 225 mg early June)

What worries me is "already" feel unpleasant things with 101 mg ... I'm afraid telling me that if it starts like that, it may be longer and more painful than expected reach 0 mg ... and all this time I still have to stay with my lysanxia 20 mg (= 40 drops) which is a lot! (I was force-fed drugs to psychiatric hospital because effexor never took over from benzos ... but only worsened my condition, therefore, increasingly bad symptoms = more molecules for carrer against the adverse effects of early ... which is logical for psychiatrists!)

Voila. You will understand that I am a natural to ask me many questions ... and fast enough to worry about (sorry) ... and be very angry against the psychiatric and dangerous drugs.

Is that for a month I thought those damn drugs would help me ... (I trusted my doctor, me) then I finally realized that it was getting worse. .. but my doctor at the time told me that it was my illness worsened and sent me to psychiatrists, against my will that I have sent to the Psychiatric Hospital (with the signature of my husband who understood nothing) and when I had horrible swallow their medications. Then I had to "go their way" to show white leg and out (nobody warned me that the Hospital at the request of one third = stress, was lifted by the psychiatrist in a few days I could sign a disclaimer: they are liars, they abuse patients medically speaking!)

Sorry for the length of my post (it is proportional to my questions and my concerns, and my rebellion!)

If someone could give me some answers about the steps I need to do for my or my withdrawal (s), I would be extremely grateful (even scold me ... too bad!)

Sincerely.

Hugs to all and good luck! (It takes a lot!)

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