You are welcome, Stan...I know how hard it is.
You are welcome, Stan...I know how hard it is.
akathisia, i wish it for all doctors and psychiatrists who prescribe
i am straight in a crisis, my walk has been shorter, as Samsara explained, i have all symptoms,
i met someone and had incredible difficulties to talk with;
once again, i surfed "akathisia" on forums, and found someone who have it since 8 years, some who had and it is gone;
how long will it be as strong?
i have to wait it will be more bearable,
12 years paxil(9 years only 10 mg) - cold turkey(1,5 month) and switch celexa tapered 1 year 20 mg
62 years old - for GAD - 4 years 3 months meds free [since april 2009]
vegetables soup - orange (vit C) - curcuma - some meat or fish
Hi Stan.........Originally Posted by stan
I understand the desire to surf for such information when one is in distress however, as you know, in doing so, we come across horror stories which can land up adding more fear into the present fear equation. Believe me I know from experience.
There is one particular persistent skin sensation that I'm dealing with and I accidently came upon a story of one person who is still dealing with it 5 years later. I wanted to cry when I read that report. However, I needed to remind myself that I do NOT know all of the details of this person's history. Perhaps they utlized an antihistamine for extended periods of time to manage this symptom as well as other WD symptoms and thus, it is a fact that one can experience a negative rebound effect when one ceases the antihistamine. The consequence would be........increased itchy skin sensations. So, I have to utilize this fact to off-set any fears that are generated by reading such stories.
You also must do the same. You have no idea IF this person who is still suffering 8 years out, took an antihistamine or other psychotropic herbs or drugs to deal with their WD induced akathisia. IF they did utilize such drugs they will incur akathisia rebound syndrome as a result of ingesting such substances.
What you are experiencing right now is a "flare up" in akathisia. This is causing you to be filled with fear and despair. This is temporary and it will pass. Believe me I have been presently experiencing a flare-up in several symptoms that are always present but have lately been acting up for an extended period of about two weeks. I know how upsetting and scary it can feel but it WILL PASS!
In fact, the akathisia you feel at present can settle down to a more manageable level a couple of hours from now or a few days from now. So, please try to keep calm and ride this out okay? Remind yourself that it's temporary and NOT permanent.
BTW, there are people who will lie about their situations, claiming that they have not taken any drugs or supplements since, they wish to avoid accountability and/or being reprimanded by others. So, instead they omit critical details in their story.
Others unknowingly get themselves into experiencing long term symptoms NOT realizing that taking other drugs have prolonged their suffering and thus, they are not lying about their situation but rather, are innocently uninformed as to why they continue to encounter long term suffering. So, please try to keep this in mind okay.
You're okay. You are informed and you have refrained from taking any psychotropic substances so you will recover much sooner than those who have not exercised such restraint. You have been incredibly strong to resist the temptation to medicate a torturous symptom. This means that your commitment will soon manifest positive results.
As you mentioned, you just have to hang in there a bit longer.
May you obtain relief from this agonizing symptoms real soon!
Samsara
Hi Stan, I agree 100% with Samsara…we do not always know the full story of what we read on the internet. The akathisia let up in stages…kind of like the waves that are talked about. Sometimes I felt like it couldn’t get any worse only to have another bout that was. As time went on I felt like I was having waves of what I called residual akathisia…it wasn’t full blown, but I felt like it was a “lower version” of it. I just want to emphasize that it is COMPLETELY gone.
I see that you are 30 months out…you have come a long way, it was around that time that I knew I was going to get through it, but it did take more time. I even had some periods where I thought I was almost out of it, but unfortunately wasn’t.
One thing that I think is VERY important while you are waiting to recover: is there anything you can do like a hobby or something you can focus on even if it is only for a minute at a time? A pet…something that you can place more importance on instead of the recovery…something you may have always wanted to do, but didn’t have time for? I took a watercolor class and a couple of other non-credit classes…sometimes I felt like I couldn’t sit still in the class, but no matter how bad I felt I forced myself to go. I also played games on the computer….Pogo and Facebook have some good games...anything to divert your attention away from the symptoms.
I know, Stan, it is hard to believe while you are in the thick of it…but, please, know that you will recover from this.
thanks Cindy,
you have explained how akathisia (and others) heal, with waves of residual, it is rare to read this from people who recovered; i have not reached these "residual" enough and therefore i have doubt i am wrong(it will be for ever or worse). When the waves come(akathisia or fibromyalgia...) all is worse, dry mouth, nocturia, and even new symptoms which were gone appear stronger (dizzy/vertigo, weakness,)
For the hobby, i think i have anhedonia mixt in anxiety, i focus near totally on my withdrawal because it destroys my life each moment; i know you are right to think on another things, i try, but my life is very narrow since tapering; as Samsara, i cannot read long time, cannot look tv long time, cannot focus on something outdoor or a kind of akathisia mental suffering comes,
for the future i will have to interest more other things, but today only minutes can be given; i have an empty life only filled by withdrawal, i can plan nothing, always save me; when we live alone it is more difficult until we reach these "residuals", even when the worst is behind maybe;
thanks for your descriptions, it will make me busy to understand and give me a better natural goal.
12 years paxil(9 years only 10 mg) - cold turkey(1,5 month) and switch celexa tapered 1 year 20 mg
62 years old - for GAD - 4 years 3 months meds free [since april 2009]
vegetables soup - orange (vit C) - curcuma - some meat or fish
Glad I could be a little help, Stan...
Just so you know...for the first year and almost a half I couldn’t watch TV at all...then my son became very interested in basketball so I made myself watch the games with him. But, I didn’t start watching everything on TV again until maybe the three year mark. Timelines are starting to fade for me....I have a couple of journals of the time, but really have no desire to read through them. The Pogo game site (I’m guessing you can access it and you can play games for free.) has a “mindless” game that I played over and over when I felt like I couldn’t do anything. It is called “Poppit”. The idea was just focusing on something else.
Anyway, Stan, I can only imagine how hard it is to live alone going through this, but I can’t emphasize enough that you WILL get through it. I hung on every positive word that Lilly and others gave me while I was in the thick of it. I’m happy to answer any questions that you have anytime.
thank you,
i will re-read all this, you speak well, but we suffer anyway!
12 years paxil(9 years only 10 mg) - cold turkey(1,5 month) and switch celexa tapered 1 year 20 mg
62 years old - for GAD - 4 years 3 months meds free [since april 2009]
vegetables soup - orange (vit C) - curcuma - some meat or fish
My pleasure Stan and I thank you for your comment. Yes, we still do suffer but it won't be forever even if it feels like it's been forever. (lol)
Samsara
thank you Cindy,
i will see all your ideas ...but i am not enough ready actually, i am too much suffering...
12 years paxil(9 years only 10 mg) - cold turkey(1,5 month) and switch celexa tapered 1 year 20 mg
62 years old - for GAD - 4 years 3 months meds free [since april 2009]
vegetables soup - orange (vit C) - curcuma - some meat or fish
Stan has an interactive computer game called..........IAWP.
Meds free since June 2005.
"An initiation into shamanic healing means a devaluation of all values, an overturning of the profane world, a peeling away of inveterate handed-down notions of the world, liberation from everything preconceived. For that reason, shamanism is closely connected with suffering. One must suffer the disintegration of one's own system of thought in order to perceive a new world in the higher space."
-- Holger Kalweit
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