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    Adverse reaction to SSRI and Alcohol

    I wasn’t anxiety ridden or depressed. For thirty-four years I was always feeling full of life and happy, excited about new adventures and what was around the bend. My normal every day life problems that each and every one of us goes through were just that… normal. Looking back, MY LIFE WAS AWSOME!

    In September 2010 I moved and took on a new job. I had an anxiety at a meeting on the new job. (The feeling I was trapped kind of or I would pass out feeling and I had to “step-out”. Well I went to the doctor said hey doc, can you help me with this I need to be top notch on the job… I thought maybe just a relaxer of some sort would be just the thing to help me out, it didn’t seem serious. Well he prescribed Celexa (citalapram). I took it and didn’t realize it until now that it was the worst mistake of my life. Ok, I’m getting ahead of myself.

    I took the med. First night I had a crazy dream that I woke from… I really didn’t think too much about it and just dismissed it. Honestly I can’t really remember if I took the med for a week or a month, but I decided this is ridiculous I really didn’t need it. So I stopped (cold turkey). Then about six months later I was in a lot of stress and thought … oh the citalopram will help (forgetting about the strange dreams it had given me) that’s what it’s supposed to do right? So I started taking it again for about another month but stopped. The stressful situation took care of itself, as they always have.

    Ok so fast-forward to March 2012. That night I had a couple glasses of wine and decided I was “blue” and thought… oh the meds my doc gave me are in there… they are supposed to help with that so I took one. TURNING POINT OF MY LIFE. BOOOM That is the night that my world turned into a raging storm, it destructed and left me with pieces to pick up. I still don’t know if it would be considered an adverse reaction to the meds or maybe WD, not sure.

    HOWEVER I DO KNOW FROM EXPERIENCE…. IT IS NOT SAFE TO TAKE SSRI’s WITH ALCOHOL. The bottle said “alcohol may intensify drowsiness” What is should have said is, THIS MEDICINE WILL GIVE YOU ONE BADDDDDD TRIP IF YOU TAKE IT WITH ALCOHOL and then have some pretty little picture of a skull and cross bones on the bottle. (yeah that bad).

    That night in March 2012 was the beginning of my 7 month nightmare…. And counting. If anyone is reading this….. please I beg of you not to take citalopram or SSRI’s for those moments you just need to relax naturally and things will heal themselves in time…. There are natural ways of dealing with normal stress and feeling down. Talk to someone, get a different perspective in life, count your blessing, exercise, read a good book, laugh with friends, go out in nature.

    In a way looking back I was using the citalopram “on as-needed basis” for stressful times (stressful but STILL NORMAL). Was I asking for it? Ohhhhh yeahhhh. But I didn’t know. I didn’t know what I was doing to myself, I didn’t know that I was causing myself HARM by taking the citalopram and that it would create a REAL PROBLEM.

    Now I know… because I am in the consequence stage and have spent the last 7 months trying to recover from the reaction I had to the meds. REGRETS… OHHH THE REGRETS. I took something beautiful and made it dysfunctional. Before all this I was a motivational young woman who made it through 7 years of college successfully and with honors (all the while working full time), did a study abroad in Europe, raised a happy and healthy son for 13 years (yes he’s still happy and healthy), was the bread winner, the super-mom, the go to person for answers to legal questions, the friend that was super fun and always upbeat energetic and loved life and had a happy balance with all that it had to offer…. And it was all medicine free.

    Ok, so what happened to me that night? I had two glasses of wine and then took (1) 20 mg celexa (medicine that I hadn’t used in six months or longer). I suffered a MAJOR PANIC ATTACK/ MELT DOWN, called poison control several times thinking I had OD from (2) glasses of wine and (1) 20mg Celexa. I was shaking (trembling), having hot cold flashes, racing thoughts, uncontrollable FEAR, thought I was dying, went into shear panic mode, nausea, could not sleep AT ALL…. And much more.

    GOOD BYE OLD SELF, HELLO NEW NOT-GOOD SELF. Next day, felt like death but still thought, this will all be ok and I’m definitely NOT taking that crap again. Well… it wasn’t ok… two days in to it still feeling like death and I ran to the doctor asking him “when is this going to go away” when will the side effects end? He told me the medicine should already be out of my system and that it was “me” and that I should start taking the meds again because I would not get better on my own. I refused! Duhhhh, those meds just made me have a severely bad reaction and was still suffering. Never had I felt like that before and I knew that I had suffered a reaction to the meds mixed with the alcohol. So I decided to wait it out.

    Well things got worse. For two weeks I had severe insomnia, racing thoughts, had developed the fear of my bed (I’ve never been afraid of my bed!!!! Ever!!!), when I did sleep I had horrible nightmares, couldn’t eat, had severe panic attacks, stayed in a constant highly anxious state, uncontrollable crying spells among other things, felt like I couldn’t find not one ounce of peace… couldn’t sit down, could stand up, couldn’t watch a movie to take my mind off things, couldn’t nap, couldn’t rest, the stamina to work a normal day had left me, the normal work day that I usually breezed through was no unbearable. I was afraid I had gone STRAIGHT JACKET CRAZY. Couldn’t do normal tasks that I used to juggle with others before. The agony!

    So I ran to a therapist told her about the reaction I had to the medicine…. And asked is this EVER going to get better?… Did I ruin myself for all eternity? What is happening to me? What do I do? When will this get better? She recommended therapy and medicine (because with both better chances of getting better). Keep in mind I was functioning quite well in life “before” the event happened so when the reaction hit I was blown away and this was the first time I had ever sought out a therapist.

    Ok, so I was NOT getting better and completely desperate to feel normal again…. So I … went back on the Celexa for a month. Oh, and klonipin was also added to the mix, which I wouldn’t take because I was afraid to. It did not help at all and in fact was making my nightmares come back and the anxiety worse. Oh, and I should mention the fact that I threw up every day and lost 20 lbs in one month. Alrighty then…. I decided that I was in fact in hell and things were never going to get better.

    This painfully true story does not end there. After the month of taking it again, during which time I was still having all the symptoms…. decided it was not working and to taper off of the citalopram (quickly). My last dose of citalopram was April 2012 about six months ago.

    Since that time I have been in complete agony going through a process of recovering from the damage of the night in March 2012. I threw up for months on end, irrational thoughts, uncontrollable fear, loosing the will to go on but having to push through. First it was terror and serve anxiety, now it seems to be more depression that has set inset in suicidal thoughts and hopelessness.

    October 6, 2012 (7 months since “D-Day”, I will call it) I am actually doing better with the suicidal thoughts and the panic attacks are much better than they were. My fear of my bed and closing my eyes (which I never had before celexa) thinking that I will never awake again is gone. I do go to work, however difficult it may be, I GO! I have no choice since I am a single mom and have no other options. My mornings are still hellish in that the anxiety still tends to wake me with that feeling of just having so much nervous energy I want to jump off a cliff, but as I get going it gets better for the day. I spend most of my day trying to make it through work and when I get home I spend most of my time on the internet trying to research more things that will help me. Oh yeahh, that’s exactly how I want to spend my time (sarcasm). I am saddened that this once lovely creature that God made, this once energetic and fun loving mother who always had time for her son and had so many great adventures together just loving life, is now running away to find moments of peace and feeling really guilty that I can’t do the things I used to do with my child. We used to travel, go on day trips, go shopping, go to the movies, have popcorn and laugh, go skiing, go to the beach. Now I am just a shell, a fragile shell worrying whether I can ever live like that again. If I had a dollar for every time I have thought “ohh God, if I can just go back, back to the night before it happened and NOT have taken that citalopram with those 2 glasses of wine”

    Any suggestions?

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    I left you a link on the sickness thread
    Put on citalopram July 2009 during a physical illness - didnt need it. 40mg
    went down to 20mg July 2010 CT in Jan 2012 - 2.5 years on.
    Tried to restart July 2012 due to 1 panic attack (never had one before - start of CT W/D) - adverse reaction
    Down to 1.5mg from the failed RI
    Now at 0.48 and trying to stabalize - been 6 weeks
    now have SEVERE anxiety, akathsia, feel like Im on acid 24/7 depression, D/P, signed off work. Scared of everything..please God let me heal from this

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    To be honest I dont think the wine made much difference it was simply taking the Citalopram again that caused the reaction. I say this because its what happened to me, its called a kindling reaction. You were in CT withdrwal from the 1 month citalopram use even though you didnt know it. the night you felt out of sorts was your w/d telling you it was there (same happened to me) and the same as you I went back to the drs and asked for the cit back BOOOOOOM all hell broke loose.

    More people will adbise you on here but I want to tell you that I understand, I was first put on citalopram during a physical illness, I have never EVER suffered with anxiety or depression. 5 months after stopping the cit cold turley (although I took it for over 2 years) I started to have apnic attacks and anxiety, I went running to the drs to ask for the citalopram and had a terrible adverse reaction.

    I also have a child, a beautiful 3 year old boy and Im 32, so we are quite similar, I was a happy confident woman and now Im a shell, but we will recover, you are sook close, read that link I send you and contact me anytime.

    Caroline xx
    Put on citalopram July 2009 during a physical illness - didnt need it. 40mg
    went down to 20mg July 2010 CT in Jan 2012 - 2.5 years on.
    Tried to restart July 2012 due to 1 panic attack (never had one before - start of CT W/D) - adverse reaction
    Down to 1.5mg from the failed RI
    Now at 0.48 and trying to stabalize - been 6 weeks
    now have SEVERE anxiety, akathsia, feel like Im on acid 24/7 depression, D/P, signed off work. Scared of everything..please God let me heal from this

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    Hey, M&M. This indeed looks like kindling reaction, which means that upon reinstating the drugs (that you may have not reacted to so badly earlier on), your body doesn't tolerate them. It's all incredibly cruel, especially going to work in that state - I, too, was doing it for a long time, so, I know how hellishly impossible this suffering is to even describe. The good news is that your state will be improving. You sound like a very strong and determined person. Stay patient. You will heal from it.

    Here are my pieces of advice; 1. Do NOT blame yourself for what has happened, 2. Read about "neuroemotions" - http://antidepressantwithdrawal.info...-Neuro-emotion 3. Take it day by day, and, even outloud, tell yourself many times a day, that it will improve.

    Have you experienced the "windows", M&M?
    Keep walking. Just keep walking.

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    hello M&M
    apparently you have had an adverse reaction to a cocktail with a psychotropic; they exist mild until very severe,
    what i have seen is that with psychotropics, the adverse reaction does not go away quickly and similar a classic withdrawal;
    no more meds and eating healthy and live with waiting it diminish with his cycles
    12 years paxil(9 years only 10 mg) - cold turkey(1,5 month) and switch celexa tapered 1 year 20 mg
    62 years old - for GAD - 4 years 3 months meds free [since april 2009]

    vegetables soup - orange (vit C) - curcuma - some meat or fish

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    @ Iggy, I am going to read that link tonight. Thank you for sending that information! I am sure it will give some much needed hope. You sound good today. How are you feeling?

    @ Luc, Thank you for the input and message of hope. I'm trying not to get down about the fact that this may take a while to recover from, but if I know recovery will happen then it is worth the wait and patience ( I just have to keep reminding myself of that). I have to admit I am scared. I've never experienced anything so completely horrible in ALL my life. Today was a good day for me. I didn't have any panic attacks (getting better) and I didn't feel like striking out in anger at anyone, or feel that disconnect from reality feeling. These are big positives and I'm soooo grateful for these moments. So by "windows" do you mean periods of time when things are good? If so, the answer is yes. There have been several stages of this from what I have experienced. But there are times like today when I experience real interest and happiness, confidence, hope, energy, and calmness. These moments are so valuable and cherished. Are you getting a lot of windows? If so, how long do they last for you and what are they like?

    @ Stan, thank you for the advice! I have started yoga, deep breathing excersise, and various other relaxtion techniques. I can tell a big difference since I have started them. At first I was so anxious, even the relaxation techniques seemed to give me anxiety but I kept working with them and it has shown to be a good thing. Little by little... One step at a time. I have started supplements: magniesum, vitamin D, Omega 3 Fish Oil, and B12 along with a multi vitamin each day and now I avoid caffiene (except for 1 cup of green tea in the morning). I try to snack healthy with fruit and vegetables and thinking about trying out Dr. Mark Hyman's UltraMind Solution Diet. I have a .pdf copy of this if anyone is interested. That's where I got the idea for the supplements. One big thing that I think really helps is the herbal tea that I have now put in my routine. I have 1-2 cups of either Kava (Yogi - Stress Relief) or Chamomile tea each night. The Chamomile tea that I use also has the chinese herb "skullcap" in it which is known in ancient chinese medicinals for treating anxiety (Triple Leaf - Relaxtion, is the brand name). You seem so strong in that you have been off the meds for 3 years now. Are your times getting better?

    Listen I REALLY appreciate the help and advice from you guys. I actually feel like I have a support system now in all this. When this happened I was in complete and untermost terror, I didn't know what happened to me and it's people like you who put their story out there that let me know that I was not alone. I was reading about how important the support system was... and I believe it can make a difference. Thank you a million times over for reaching out. I pray many blessings and healing for you all.

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    Wow, this is a classic SSRI horror story. I’m so sorry, m&m. You will definitely recover 100%. You’ve already started to show signs of improvement.

    I second what Iggy said. It sounds like kindling effect – you started and stopped the med three times, and the third time your body rebelled. I don’t think the alcohol has much to do with it.

    Thank goodness you knew the medication had caused your reaction, and didn’t think that was your real self coming out. What a dodo the doctor was.

    That’s great you’re getting windows of relief. They will increase. And excellent that you’re doing yoga, breathing, and relaxation! They will help.

    Your supplements sound good. I just have a question about the B12 – I’m not sure, but I think some people can tolerate that and some can’t when recovering from these adverse reactions / w/d. Maybe you could research that. Also, the green tea – might, might be too activating for you. Again, I’m not sure. You could experiment. Drink half a cup, see if you feel differently in the morning?

    You’re doing everything right, and you’re clearly seeing improvement. You will recover fully. Life will get back to being bearable and even fun again.
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    Hi Shelia. You may be right about the B12. I did notice a while back when I had started taking the vitamins again that I felt some higher anxiety that day. Maybe something in the mix? Possibly the B12. I will try without the B12 and see how it goes.

    Thanks for replying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by m&m View Post
    Are you getting a lot of windows? If so, how long do they last for you and what are they like?
    It works like this - as time passes, and the symptoms, on average, improve, what was once a "window" (the intensity of symptoms lessen) is equal to an intensity of a "wave" now, and so on. To make it more complex, initially the improvement is very cyclical, only at some point of WD it becomes more linear and *logical*. All in all though, it *always* improves over time.
    Keep walking. Just keep walking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iggy131313 View Post
    To be honest I dont think the wine made much difference it was simply taking the Citalopram again that caused the reaction. I say this because its what happened to me, its called a kindling reaction. You were in CT withdrwal from the 1 month citalopram use even though you didnt know it. the night you felt out of sorts was your w/d telling you it was there (same happened to me) and the same as you I went back to the drs and asked for the cit back BOOOOOOM all hell broke loose.

    More people will adbise you on here but I want to tell you that I understand, I was first put on citalopram during a physical illness, I have never EVER suffered with anxiety or depression. 5 months after stopping the cit cold turley (although I took it for over 2 years) I started to have apnic attacks and anxiety, I went running to the drs to ask for the citalopram and had a terrible adverse reaction.

    I also have a child, a beautiful 3 year old boy and Im 32, so we are quite similar, I was a happy confident woman and now Im a shell, but we will recover, you are sook close, read that link I send you and contact me anytime.

    Caroline xx
    Iggy, I read the link you sent regarding Lov on PP, and then tonight I read Charly's adverse reaction, and then taking your situation into perspective as well as a few others that I have came across in other blogs ... all of thise have a HUGE connection that is consistent with the stoping and re-starting of an SSRI.

    Praying healing for us all.

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