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    Quote Originally Posted by Luc View Post
    Thank you so much, Sam.

    You're most welcome Luc!


    The good news is that the current bout of it isn't worse than the previous ones.

    Okay. I'm so glad to hear this.

    Also, going to a doctor now would stir up my system terribly - that I know for sure.

    Believe me I completely understand. I myself avoid as many app'ts as possible since, my CNS is still way too over-reactive, not to mention the trauma factor only increases when I have to deal with doctors or anything that has to do with the medical system.

    I have tried out all the options (remedies) - one at a time, and it's still very stubborn.

    Okay. I'm so sorry that nothing has helped ease some of the suffering.

    What is incredible is the fact HOW MUCH it worsens your psychological symptoms.

    I SO KNOW what you mean! So sorry Luc. I know how horrible it is to be so psychologically sensitive. Some day we will regain emotional, psychological and physical stamina, resilience etc. It will feel so good to feel strong on all levels!

    I tell myself, though - if it always improved, it must improve now too.

    Yes, indeed. You are telling yourself the right things.

    Bizarrely enough, also this tooth I had problems with some time ago, but that started to get better, is still there. Yes, it has improved, but the improvement stopped at a certain phase and won't even budge.

    Gosh, so sorry to hear this. Actually, I'm dealing with ongoing issues with my teeth.........holding off as long as possible before getting anymore work done since, I KNOW that my CNS cannot handle anything invasive nor any other drugs at this stage. I just pray to God that my teeth will hold out and not get any worse for a few more months.

    With that said, I SO UNDERSTAND how stressful it is to have this CONSTANT discomfort not to mention ongoing fear that the tooth or teeth may get worse and additional dental work etc. I truly hope that your tooth improves very soon!!


    It sometimes feels like the WD has us in the cross-hairs and has sick fun aiming at us - this time it hit this, the next that. Stan knows what I'm talking about - the problems he has with his ear...

    I so know what you mean!

    Anyway, we must go through this phase, no matter what. I will wait a little bit more to see what happens with the stomach then. Thank you so much, Sam! Even talking in such situation helps a lot.
    I'm glad talking helped you Luc. I sincerely hope that this latest stomach episode is SHORT LIVED and I hope it never returns again from this point forward.

    Soothing Healing Energy to You!

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    Ach, Luc, so disappointing to have to deal with this again, I know. It *is* astonishing how much stomach problems affect us psychologically – but only because we came of age before humans learned that the gut contains most of the serotonin and could be called the enteric brain.

    I have two ideas, and it is *completely* fine with me if neither of them appeals to you. Don’t even worry about it.

    First, a few days ago, I was taking my fiber capsules, and it occurred to me that it might help you to increase your fiber intake. I have been taking Psyllium Husk in capsules for many years, since well before w/d, ever since I became convinced that we don’t get enough fiber in our modern diet, and that plenty of fiber can prevent a lot of problems from even starting.

    I plan to switch from capsules to loose powder at some point because it works better and is cheaper, but, you know, it’s still a big deal with the dysautonomia to make any changes. If you decide to try this, start with a tiny amount. Your system will need to get used to it.

    Second, the last dream I had this morning was in a medieval setting and there was a reference to “adder” – I knew they meant the plant, not the snake. Then, I got up and read about your stomach distress. Then, I Googled the adder plant and found it is, indeed, called “black adder” -- you may be familiar with the British medieval comedy.

    Black adder is more commonly known as “Anise Hyssop” and it is good for digestion –

    http://www.dirtdoctor.com/Anise-Hyssop_vq3143.htm

    And other interesting things –

    http://www.alchemy-works.com/agastache_foeniculum.html


    Anyway, it was an interesting synchronicity. I am not very good at making psi conscious yet, but I am trying to learn, and everyone says that you only get better by heeding these things when they happen. So, it is as much for me as for you that I mention this. :)

    I hope this wave passes quickly!
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    I'm absolutely open to all ideas there are. Today, I'll start trying out the fibre option. Great many thanks for all of them. As for "adder", the *first* thing that came to my mind, totally automatically, was Rowan Atkinson! :)
    Keep walking. Just keep walking.

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    seems that you have stomach waves as Sheila says, i remember you were very bad and go to specialist who told you you have nothing wrong and you had nearly no more pain, you said somatization, as i have spine, ribcage and shoulders pain, you have stomach pain , part from anxiety

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    It's about 30% better now. Far from what I wish it was, but still... Let us see what the next days will bring. Stan, how's your improvement in the exercise tolerance? Are you still able to walk better these days?
    Keep walking. Just keep walking.

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    unfortunately it was maybe a window, but i am a little stronger than 2 months ago in walking, so there is a little progress;
    but since my ear thing, i feel inflamation in head ears, sinusitis, parkinson like standing, and high derealisation maybe depersonalisation, dry mouth in bed, dizziness/vertigo so i am not well actually(and i speak not of the 200 symptoms i live with ...)and spine ribcage shoulders muscles pains and bladder and prostate and ...i will stop here; to speak short, nothing is normal, all is twisted since the beginning; hopefully i suffer no more as one year ago
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luc View Post
    It's about 30% better now. Far from what I wish it was, but still... Let us see what the next days will bring. Stan, how's your improvement in the exercise tolerance? Are you still able to walk better these days?
    Luc.........

    I'm so glad to hear that you are experiencing some improvement. Let's hope that things will be even better tomorrow! This WILL PASS just as all the other stomach events have!!!

    I wish you FULL RECOVERY VERY SOON!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by stan View Post
    unfortunately it was maybe a window, but i am a little stronger than 2 months ago in walking, so there is a little progress;
    but since my ear thing, i feel inflamation in head ears, sinusitis, parkinson like standing, and high derealisation maybe depersonalisation, dry mouth in bed, dizziness/vertigo so i am not well actually(and i speak not of the 200 symptoms i live with ...)and spine ribcage shoulders muscles pains and bladder and prostate and ...i will stop here; to speak short, nothing is normal, all is twisted since the beginning; hopefully i suffer no more as one year ago

    Stan,

    It's good to read that you feel as if you are a bit stronger than 2 months ago. The window WILL BE BACK Stan!! It really will!

    I very much understand the long list of symptoms that remain though and just how hard it is to still get through each day. I too am dealing with many, many symptoms but I was showing real good signs of healing BEFORE the dental and medications and other incident (that I haven't spoken about yet) that threw my CNS back into very bad state.

    As you know it is so disappointing but we have no choice but to hang on a bit longer and hope that a few more months will bring greater healing.

    I wish you full recovery in the very near future!!

    Samsara
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    "To face my trials with the grace of a woman rather than the grief of a child". (Veronica A. Shoffstall)


    40 Months drug-free from kindling & tolerance WD (Doxepin) + many past C/T & C/switches from benzos, ADs, and APs, Lithium & thryoid h rx'd for severe GI symptoms.

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    Thank you so much, Sam. Yes, it must eventually end. Using the Truman Show greeting sequence, I wish you good night. :)
    Keep walking. Just keep walking.

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    I need to share this one with you. At some point, this week, the nausea, weakness, and all those nasty stomach problems got so bad, I thought I would have no other choice but call an ambulance. Here's the trick; they all started at the time when I started to think about the necessity of doing something life-wise, something incredibly stressful. There are those situations in life you simply can't avoid. It was hellish. Yet, once I went past that point and I took care of some things, still being in WD (even if not in its early phases), the stomach symptoms "miraculously" improved.

    Also, though this will hardly work in early WD, at the stage when I'm in, it may start working - I told myself that, despite the suffering, I'll be still making the next Youtube movies, working at the forum. So, basically, I was taking it one step at a time this week... And I managed to emerge alive on the other side... As I said, in early WD it may not be possible, but later on, step by step, it changes. Take care!
    Last edited by Luc; 09-10-2012 at 02:09 PM.
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