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    Quote Originally Posted by Cosette123 View Post
    Redroo I have this kind of "mad" friend too and she makes me laugh but she is unable to understand my withdrawal problems. She is convinced that I ought to be put on meds again or to see a psychiatrist...
    It is always so simple for those who have not been in our shoes. If Doctors are so quick to prescribe A/d's and don't acknowlage the damage they do the general public can't be expected to understand.

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    Hmmm...anyone know Monty Python's The Argument sketch? I'm happy to reproduce it in stages. It really is very good



    BTW... I'm sorry for those suffering with anhedonia. It hasn't been an issue for me in w/d but I've had five episodes of depression and since it is an integral part of it, I know it only too well. I feel for all of you
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    Quote Originally Posted by Junior View Post
    Hmmm...anyone know Monty Python's The Argument sketch? I'm happy to reproduce it in stages. It really is very good
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    Quote Originally Posted by Junior View Post
    Hmmm...anyone know Monty Python's The Argument sketch? I'm happy to reproduce it in stages. It really is very good



    BTW... I'm sorry for those suffering with anhedonia. It hasn't been an issue for me in w/d but I've had five episodes of depression and since it is an integral part of it, I know it only too well. I feel for all of you
    Junior,

    It's very kind of you to take the time to recognize and acknowledge our suffering and I thank you for that! Also, I'm sad to hear that you have had repeated past experiences with depression and anhedonia. Thus, I very much feel for what you have been through.

    Just keep tapering very slowly and allow your brain ample time to adjust so you can avoid and/or minimize any negative effects. Wishing you success in your continued taper and post taper recovery.


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    The argument - Monty Python

    Enjoy:

    A man walks into an office.

    Man: (Michael Palin) Ah. I'd like to have an argument, please.

    Receptionist: Certainly sir. Have you been here before?

    Man: No, this is my first time.

    Receptionist: I see. Well, do you want to have the full argument, or were you thinking of taking a course?

    Man: Well, what would be the cost?

    Receptionist: Well, It's one pound for a five minute argument, but only eight pounds for a course of ten.

    Man: Well, I think it's probably best if I start with the one and then see how it goes from there, okay?

    Receptionist: Fine. I'll see who's free at the moment.

    (Pause)

    Receptionist: Mr. DeBakey's free, but he's a little bit conciliatory. Ahh yes, Try Mr. Barnard; room 12.

    Man: Thank you. (Walks down the hall. Opens door.)

    Angry man: WHADDAYOU WANT?

    Man: Well, Well, I was told outside that...

    Angry man: DON'T GIVE ME THAT, YOU SNOTTY-FACED HEAP OF PARROT DROPPINGS!

    Man: What?

    A: SHUT YOUR FESTERING GOB, YOU TIT! YOUR TYPE MAKES ME PUKE! YOU VACUOUS TOFFEE-NOSED MALODOROUS PERVERT!!!

    M: Yes, but I came here for an argument!!

    A: OH! Oh! I'm sorry! This is abuse!

    M: Oh! Oh I see!

    A: Aha! No, you want room 12A, next door.

    M: Oh...Sorry...

    A: Not at all!

    A: (under his breath) stupid git.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Samsara View Post
    Junior,

    It's very kind of you to take the time to recognize and acknowledge our suffering and I thank you for that! Also, I'm sad to hear that you have had repeated past experiences with depression and anhedonia. Thus, I very much feel for what you have been through.

    Just keep tapering very slowly and allow your brain ample time to adjust so you can avoid and/or minimize any negative effects. Wishing you success in your continued taper and post taper recovery.


    Samsara
    Thank you but I am doing fine. At present I'm dropping by 1mg per month with my only real problem being sleep, which is generally of a poor quality. I'm taking naturopathic supplements (she is excellent) and often valerian forte at night to aid my sleep. I expect to have to drop slower when I get down to a lower dose. All in good time :)

    Cheers
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    The argument - part 2

    (The man goes into room 12A. Another man is sitting behind a desk.)

    Man: Is this the right room for an argument?

    Other Man:(John Cleese) I've told you once.

    Man: No you haven't!

    Other Man: Yes I have.

    M: When?

    O: Just now.

    M: No you didn't!

    O: Yes I did!

    M: You didn't!

    O: I did!

    M: You didn't!

    O: I'm telling you, I did!

    M: You did not!

    O: Oh I'm sorry, is this a five minute argument, or the full half hour?

    M: Ah! (taking out his wallet and paying) Just the five minutes.

    O: Just the five minutes. Thank you.

    O: Anyway, I did.

    M: You most certainly did not!

    O: Now let's get one thing quite clear: I most definitely told you!

    M: Oh no you didn't!

    O: Oh yes I did!

    M: Oh no you didn't!

    O: Oh yes I did!

    M: Oh no you didn't!

    O: Oh yes I did!

    M: Oh no you didn't!

    O: Oh yes I did!

    M: Oh no you didn't!

    O: Oh yes I did!

    M: Oh no you didn't!

    O: Oh yes I did!

    M: No you DIDN'T!

    O: Oh yes I did!

    M: No you DIDN'T!

    O: Oh yes I did!

    M: No you DIDN'T!

    O: Oh yes I did!

    M: Oh look, this isn't an argument!

    (pause)
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    The argument - part 3

    O: Yes it is!

    M: No it isn't!

    (pause)

    M: It's just contradiction!

    O: No it isn't!

    M: It IS!

    O: It is NOT!

    M: You just contradicted me!

    O: No I didn't!

    M: You DID!

    O: No no no!

    M: You did just then!

    O: Nonsense!

    M: (exasperated) Oh, this is futile!!

    (pause)

    O: No it isn't!

    M: Yes it is!

    (pause)

    M: I came here for a good argument!

    O: AH, no you didn't, you came here for an argument!

    M: An argument isn't just contradiction.

    O: Well! it CAN be!

    M: No it can't!

    M: An argument is a connected series of statements intended to establish a proposition.

    O: No it isn't!

    M: Yes it is! 'tisn't just contradiction.

    O: Look, if I *argue* with you, I must take up a contrary position!

    M: Yes but it isn't just saying 'no it isn't'.

    O: Yes it is!

    M: No it isn't!

    O: Yes it is!

    M: No it isn't!

    O: Yes it is!

    M: No it ISN'T! Argument is an intellectual process. Contradiction is just the automatic gainsaying of anything the other person says.

    O: It is NOT!

    M: It is!

    O: Not at all!

    M: It is!

    (The Arguer hits a bell on his desk and stops.)

    O: Thank you, that's it.

    M: (stunned) What?

    O: That's it. Good morning.

    M: But I was just getting interested!

    O: I'm sorry, the five minutes is up.

    M: That was never five minutes just now!!

    O: I'm afraid it was.

    M: (leading on) No it wasn't.....

    O: I'm sorry, I'm not allowed to argue any more.

    M: WHAT??

    O: If you want me to go on arguing, you'll have to pay for another five minutes.

    M: But that was never five minutes just now!
    Oh Come on!
    Oh this is...
    This is ridiculous!
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    The argument - part 4

    O: I told you... I told you, I'm not allowed to argue unless you PAY!

    M: Oh all right. (takes out his wallet and pays again.) There you are.

    O: Thank you.

    M: (clears throat) Well...

    O: Well WHAT?

    M: That was never five minutes just now.

    O: I told you, I'm not allowed to argue unless you've paid!

    M: Well I just paid!

    O: No you didn't!

    M: I DID!!!

    O: YOU didn't!

    M: I DID!!!

    O: YOU didn't!

    M: I DID!!!

    O: YOU didn't!

    M: I DID!!!

    O: YOU didn't!

    M: I don't want to argue about it!

    O: Well I'm very sorry but you didn't pay!

    M: Ah hah! Well if I didn't pay, why are you arguing??? Ah HAAAAAAHHH! Gotcha!

    O: No you haven't!

    M: Yes I have! If you're arguing, I must have paid.

    O: Not necessarily. I *could* be arguing in my spare time.

    M: I've had enough of this!

    O: No you haven't.

    M: Oh shut up!

    (Man leaves the office)



    Continue to the next sketch... Hitting on the Head Lessons
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