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    hi Mixter,

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    Threshold experiences -- PMH Atwater

    P.M.H. Atwater
    lecture, 30th Annual IANDS Conference
    4 Sep 2011
    http://nhne-pulse.org/p-m-h-atwater-...ld-experience/


    Abstract:

    My research has shown me that the near-death experience is not some kind of anomaly, but is, rather, part of the larger genre of transformations of consciousness. The clue most researchers miss is stress; specifically, the intensity which comes from that stress (known in shamanism as “high stress”). The entire pattern of aftereffects and the degree to which people change, can be traced to that factor. It’s the intensity that shifts experiencers into what is called a “threshold experience” – one that straddles the boundary between this world and other worlds, between brain and that which lies beyond what the brain can access, between reality and miracles, mind and spirit, life and death, heaven and hell, sanity and insanity. Once we understand this shift, we can begin to unravel how the transformational process works. At the threshold of who we think we are and what lies beyond body and brain, is the core of ancient mysteries. We are transformed by the Oneness we find there.


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    ….still, there is no real preparation for that overwhelming, “over the top” fear that pushes one’s panic button. Once that threshold is breached, the individual either passes into madness or breaks through the passageway into otherworlds of spirit that engender a transformation of consciousness.

    Consider the mythological traditions of the “hero’s journey” or the making of “wise ones.” High stress was always the deciding factor: how the individual faced “the watcher at the gate” (fear at the stress threshold), overcame that fear (passed through/ascended), entered into the other worlds of spirit (that null space where everything is said to converge/suspend/expand into the collective whole), and is imprinted from the aftereffects (bears the “mark” of ascension). This “journey” is what establishes the extent to which the individual changes or is transformed.

    The formula then for a transformation of consciousness (the basic energetics) is: intense period of change, high stress that narrows one’s focus, feeling driven or accelerated beyond states of fear/panic, encountering a threshold or boundary, maybe meeting a greeter of some kind, passing into a null space of energy convergence, becoming infused with knowing, imprinted or altered by null space exposure, returning as one who has been expanded or enhanced by the experience – as if forever “marked” by the pattern of aftereffects.

    I’ve seen this thousands of times — experiencers who behave as if they have been punched, jerked, hit, pushed, or somehow spun around. Something physical happened to them, something separate from any mind play or otherworldly visitation or event that put them at death’s door. And that “something” shifted their futures by pushing them into a unique arena of experience. The “something” that set them apart I call a “power punch.” It is a force. It is an energy. It is intense.

    This intensity, what narrows a person’s focus in high stress, is the key, the hinge, to understanding near-death and near-death-like experiences and impactual spiritual transformations.
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    Fluid dynamics tells us that it only takes 4 to 5% of any group, condition, or situation to change, for the whole assembly to follow. Once that tipping point of 4 to 5% is reached, energy excites and becomes highly charged. This creates what is called “superfluidity”. . . a state of energy that cannot be contained.

    Currently the conservative estimate worldwide for people having had a near-death experience is 4 to 5% of the general population. This estimate does not take into consideration near-death-like and spiritually transforming experiences that are also intensely life changing. Counting them too could easily double or triple that figure, indicating that a realignment of global consciousness toward a higher order is well on its way to becoming highly charged….

    A leaderless expansion of conscious awareness, now exploding throughout the Middle East and Northern Africa, mirrors what threshold experiencers come to know. An awakening is indeed occurring . . . the cry for freedom and human rights has spread so rapidly it rings with but a single voice. The tipping point for change most certainly has been breached. We are witness to a spontaneous, worldwide, revolution in consciousness — championed by but hardly limited to the young and the marvels of Facebook and Twitter….
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sheila View Post
    Fluid dynamics tells us that it only takes 4 to 5% of any group, condition, or situation to change, for the whole assembly to follow. Once that tipping point of 4 to 5% is reached, energy excites and becomes highly charged. This creates what is called “superfluidity”. . . a state of energy that cannot be contained.
    Once people realize it more*, they will be able to take matters in their hands and change the status quo even faster.

    *and the act of people reading it, is reaching the critical mass itself, lol. And it happens everywhere now...
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    It sure would be nice if change could speed up -- at all levels of reality....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sheila View Post
    It sure would be nice if change could speed up -- at all levels of reality....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luc View Post
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    [faster than the speed of light, so you can't see it]

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    -- Holger Kalweit

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